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#10 – From the Trenches - MSP Exit & EOS Lessons (Jeff Wynn)
In this From the Trenches episode of the BMK Vision Podcast, Josh Peterson sits down with Jeff Wynn—founder and former owner of New River Computing...
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Updated on December 24, 2025
In this episode of From the Trenches on the BMK Vision Podcast, Josh Peterson sits down with Nicholas Reimer of Alternative Payments for a leadership-level conversation about a problem most MSPs underestimate until it hurts: accounts receivable drag. When cash flow slows by even a few days, the impact compounds—on payroll decisions, hiring confidence, tooling upgrades, and the owner’s ability to invest strategically instead of constantly protecting liquidity. This episode frames AR not as “admin work,” but as an operating discipline that belongs alongside margin, utilization, and delivery quality—especially if you’re building toward a more structured model like Vision and treating financial stewardship as a core leadership responsibility rather than an after-hours cleanup task. For MSP owners who want a sharper lens on what financial clarity unlocks, this pairs well with the long-term benefits of adding a financial consultant to your MSP.
This is not a conversation about “chasing invoices faster.” It’s about designing a system where chasing largely disappears—because the client experience, payment options, and policies are set correctly from day one. Nicholas and Josh explore why legacy payment workflows quietly create hidden costs (time, friction, unpredictability), why ACH adoption is a strategic lever (not just a convenience), and why the real win is shortening the quote-to-cash cycle so your MSP stops financing client indecision. Along the way, they confront a reality many owners avoid: your AR process is part of your positioning. Strong operators set expectations, reduce ambiguity, and treat cash-flow velocity as an intentional outcome—not something “the bookkeeper handles.”
If you’re an MSP owner who has ever been surprised by aging AR, felt the anxiety of a big outstanding balance, or realized too late that “good relationships” can become an excuse for weak process, this episode will resonate.
Short answer: you shorten the time between “work delivered” and “cash collected” by making payment behavior a designed system—not a negotiated habit.
Most MSPs think cash flow is primarily a sales problem (“we need more MRR”) or a finance problem (“we need better reporting”). In reality, cash flow is often an execution problem: inconsistent onboarding, unclear payment expectations, too many manual exceptions, and a billing process that relies on heroic follow-up. Automation matters—but only when it reinforces a disciplined policy that sets the tone early and removes ambiguity from the client experience.
In this episode, Nicholas and Josh make the case that faster collections are rarely about pressure. They’re about structure.
Many MSP owners believe they’re “fine” because revenue is steady and clients seem happy—until aging AR spikes and suddenly the business is floating thousands of dollars for work already delivered.
This episode addresses three common MSP cash-flow traps:
The underlying theme is simple: you can’t build a durable MSP on unpredictable cash collection. If you want stability, you need a system that enforces it.
A manual AR MSP tends to operate like this:
An automated AR MSP tends to operate like this:
Nicholas frames the opportunity in practical terms: the goal isn’t “more technology.” It’s a cleaner operating rhythm—where the business stops bleeding time and attention on the same avoidable payment friction month after month.
Stewardship shows up in practical, repeatable decisions:
This is the subtle leadership shift: you stop treating billing as an awkward afterthought and start treating it as part of your operating system. Done well, it protects your team, your delivery capacity, and your ability to invest without anxiety.
If you want to tighten cash flow without turning your MSP into a collections agency, this episode points to a few non-negotiables:
These are the same fundamentals Bering McKinley emphasizes through its consulting services and the Vision operating system—helping MSPs align people, process, and performance under a single execution framework.
Nicholas Reimer works in partnerships at Alternative Payments, helping MSPs strengthen cash-flow predictability by improving the systems and client experiences that sit between “invoice created” and “invoice paid.” His perspective is grounded in entrepreneurship and operational scalability—focused on how process design reduces friction, protects margin, and keeps MSP leadership out of avoidable financial firefighting.
Connect with Nicholas Reimer on LinkedIn →
What is the fastest way for an MSP to improve cash flow?
Reduce payment lag by standardizing payment expectations at onboarding and making automated ACH the default for recurring invoices.
Should MSPs pass through credit card processing fees?
Often, yes—especially in B2B—if you communicate it clearly and still provide lower-cost options like ACH.
Why are checks such a problem for MSP billing?
Checks add delay, manual work, and reconciliation overhead, which increases DSO and quietly drains operational capacity.
What is DSO and why does it matter for MSP owners?
DSO (days sales outstanding) measures how quickly you collect revenue. A few extra days can materially impact payroll safety, hiring confidence, and growth investment.
How can financing help an MSP close deals without discounting?
Short-term installment options can soften the impact of unusual invoices (hardware refreshes, projects) while allowing the MSP to get paid immediately.
How do I get existing clients to adopt ACH without damaging relationships?
Use a structured change plan: communicate the why, provide a timeline, offer a brief incentive window, and treat the shift as a standard operating improvement—not a negotiation.
If you’re an MSP owner tightening financial discipline—and want help building systems that protect margin, accelerate collections, and create operating clarity—explore the Vision operating system or apply to be a guest on the podcast.
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