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Podcast # The BMK Vision Podcast Josh Peterson and Gary Boyle on running an MSP like a business. A Roundtable every Monday, and From the Trenches with a guest on Thursdays. The earlier Don't Be That Guy and BMK Quick Takes episodes are here too. - [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@beringmckinleyvision) - [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/6iYx2sDBy2YnN3V2YA9GyW) - [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bmk-vision-podcast/id1827082235) - [YouTube Music](https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL03jvZSuXCDFHzZFwDdTs1xP07b8AI_5P) ## Listen now Mondays ## Roundtable Josh and Gary take one question MSP owners and their teams ask and work it through, from pricing and payroll to selling the business. Thursdays ## From the Trenches A guest who has built, run, bought or sold MSPs, or advises the people who do, on what they learned. Earlier series ## Don't Be That Guy The early show on the mistakes MSP owners make in pricing, dispatch, time entry, hiring and selling, and how to fix them. 15 episodes. Earlier series ## BMK Quick Takes Three episodes, each on one idea: goals as math, the order of selling, and why every MSP needs a dispatcher. ## Watch and read Every episode written up on the blog, with the video and the key points from the conversation. Browse by show [Roundtable](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/tag/bmk-vision-roundtable?hsLang=en)[From the Trenches](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/tag/from-the-trenches?hsLang=en)[Don't Be That Guy](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/tag/dont-be-that-guy?hsLang=en)[BMK Quick Takes](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/tag/bmk-quick-takes?hsLang=en) - [![](https://beringmckinley.com/hs-fs/hubfs/%23134%20-%20MSP%20Account%20Management%20-%20Is%20Your%20Pull-Through%20Stuck%20at%2015%25_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png?width=640&height=360&name=%23134%20-%20MSP%20Account%20Management%20-%20Is%20Your%20Pull-Through%20Stuck%20at%2015%25_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png) RoundtableNov 9, 2026 What Does an MSP Account Manager Actually Do?](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/what-does-an-msp-account-manager-actually-do?hsLang=en) - [![](https://beringmckinley.com/hs-fs/hubfs/%23133%20-%20Selling%20Your%20MSP%20-%20Contracts%20Change%20Terms%2c%20Not%20Price%20_%20FROM%20THE%20TRENCHES.png?width=640&height=360&name=%23133%20-%20Selling%20Your%20MSP%20-%20Contracts%20Change%20Terms%2c%20Not%20Price%20_%20FROM%20THE%20TRENCHES.png) From the TrenchesNov 5, 2026 Do You Need Customer Contracts to Sell Your MSP?](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/do-you-need-customer-contracts-to-sell-your-msp?hsLang=en) - [![](https://beringmckinley.com/hs-fs/hubfs/%23132%20-%20Should%20MSPs%20Build%20AI%20Apps%20for%20Clients%20or%20Just%20Block%20AI_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png?width=640&height=360&name=%23132%20-%20Should%20MSPs%20Build%20AI%20Apps%20for%20Clients%20or%20Just%20Block%20AI_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png) RoundtableNov 2, 2026 Is It Safe for MSPs to Share Claude Artifacts With Clients?](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/is-it-safe-for-msps-to-share-claude-artifacts-with-clients?hsLang=en) - [![](https://beringmckinley.com/hs-fs/hubfs/%23131%20-%20AI%20Cyberattacks%20-%20Who%20Owns%20Your%20MSPs%20Security%20Risk_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png?width=640&height=360&name=%23131%20-%20AI%20Cyberattacks%20-%20Who%20Owns%20Your%20MSPs%20Security%20Risk_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png) RoundtableOct 26, 2026 Who Owns the Risk When an MSP Outsources Security?](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/who-owns-the-risk-when-an-msp-outsources-security?hsLang=en) - [![](https://beringmckinley.com/hs-fs/hubfs/%23130%20-%20MSP%20AI%20Security%20-%20How%20Much%20Risk%20Should%20You%20Accept_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png?width=640&height=360&name=%23130%20-%20MSP%20AI%20Security%20-%20How%20Much%20Risk%20Should%20You%20Accept_%20_%20BMK%20VISION%20ROUNDTABLE.png) RoundtableOct 21, 2026 Should an MSP Trust Claude With Client Data?](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/should-an-msp-trust-claude-with-client-data?hsLang=en) - [![](https://beringmckinley.com/hs-fs/hubfs/%23129%20-%20Selling%20Your%20MSP%20-%20My%20Price%2c%20Your%20Terms%20%20FROM%20THE%20TRENCHES.png?width=640&height=360&name=%23129%20-%20Selling%20Your%20MSP%20-%20My%20Price%2c%20Your%20Terms%20%20FROM%20THE%20TRENCHES.png) From the TrenchesOct 15, 2026 How Long Should You Stay After Selling Your MSP?](https://beringmckinley.com/blog/how-long-should-you-stay-after-selling-your-msp?hsLang=en) Be a guest ## Have a story MSP owners and their teams can use? From the Trenches features people who have built, run, bought or sold MSPs, and the advisors who help them. If you've lived through something other owners should hear, tell us about it. 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